You're listening to Unfiltered with James James O'Brien. I'm joined this week by the editor and

well former editor of The Guardian, Alan Rusbridge, who is one of the industry's great

thinkers but also of course the man who was in charge of that

newspaper during some of the most seminal stories of of recent years the phone

hacking at the news of the world that that really turned British media upside down and I think you could apply the

same description to the WikiLeaks and the Edward Snowden revelations that the

Guardian published he's written a new book breaking news News, the Remaking of Journalism and Why It Matters Now.

It's out now and I'm looking forward to finding out amongst other things how much responsibility he's prepared to take for the fact

that news is broken. If you've put in decades on the country's I suppose only serious left-wing newspaper

and a couple of years after walking away you've concluded that journalism needs to be remade. Can I start by asking

how much responsibility you bear for it breaking in the first place?

Well, none of us is perfect.

And what I tried to describe was a massive disruption of news.

I suppose we all know that.

We all know that every journalist who works in any organization

has been struggling with that for the last 20 years.

And we all got lots of it wrong.

We got some of it right.

But I thought it was valuable to try and write down what it felt like to be at the

eye of that storm as it happened and the 20 year window is pretty much the internet

yeah I started editing in 1995. I remember going to America

in 1994 to look at the internet. Right. What was it then? It was a in each newspaper there was a tiny group of geeks.

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