Alain Bertaud on Cities, Planning, and Order Without Design

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🗓️ 3 June 2019

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Urbanist and author Alain Bertaud of NYU talks about his book Order Without Design with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. Bertaud explores the role of zoning and planning alongside the emergent factors that affect the growth of cities. He emphasizes the importance of cities as places for people to work and looks at how preferences and choices shape cities. Bertaud also reflects upon the differing perspectives of urban planners and economists.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.
0:08.0	I'm your host, Russ Roberts of Stanford University's Hoover Institution.
0:12.6	Our website is econtalk.org where you can subscribe, comment on this podcast, and find
0:17.6	links and other information related to today's conversation.
0:20.5	We'll also find our archives where you can listen to every episode we've ever done going
0:24.8	back to 2006.
0:27.0	Our email address is mailadycontalk.org.
0:29.0	We'd love to hear from you.
0:31.0	Today is April 11, 2019.
0:35.4	And my guest is Urbanist, Architect, and Author, Alan Berto.
0:41.5	He is a senior research scholar at New York University's Moran Institute of Urban Management.
0:46.2	He has worked all over the world as a consultant and urban planner.
0:50.4	He knows a lot about cities, his book, and the topic for today's conversation is order
0:56.1	without design, how markets shape cities.
0:59.5	Alan, welcome to econtalk.
1:01.5	Thank you.
1:02.5	Thank you.
1:03.5	Your book is about how the economics of bottom-up, emergent order, what you call markets,
1:09.0	interact with the top-down administration and regulation of cities around the world.
1:13.0	It's a fabulous introduction to urban economics.
1:16.2	And you argue that most urban planners are ignorant of how market forces shape cities.
1:22.2	What is that perspective that urban planners have that is missing the economic perspective?
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