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I'm Jesse Thorn in 1985 the band till Tuesday had a hit video on MTV

Their singer Amy Mann became kind of famous but she didn't like it. It did not suit me very well

I have to say I mean, I think also till Tuesday's, you know, big head voices care was kind of right in the beginning of of MTV and

You know, that was such a novelty that we became really recognizable very very quickly and once I kind of

Had people recognize me then I was really off the idea because I you know, I just found it kind of uncomfortable

So she took her career a different way. It's bullseye

This week I talked to Amy Mann. She'll explain her transition from an 80s pop star to a solo performer

He writes mostly to her own taste. I'm not that person who's like I have to make everyone in this place love me all 10,000 of you

I'm more like here it is. I hope you like it if not then cool and then I'll talk to Seth Godin

He's a kind of a creative marketing guy, but

Not in the sleazy way. He's actually pretty brilliant and

And he gives credence I think to Amy's point of view finding the intestinal fortitude to do work that some people don't like

To put ideas into the world that some people are going to criticize is actually what it is to be an artist

Plus Jordan Morris ranks what's best in America somewhat arbitrarily and I suggest you check out Orson Well's final master work

F for fake or do I all this week on bullseye. Let's go

Every week on the show we are joined by one of our favorite culture critics to recommend some stuff that's worth your time

This week we're talking about rap music with our friend Andrew Nas from cocaine Blanc say Andrew has it going

How's it going Jesse? Oh, it's going great. I'm excited about talking about these songs

Let's take a listen to a little bit of mouse on the tracks get high get loaded featuring

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