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AI’s Trough of Disillusionment with Jeff Richards | Okay, Computer.

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🗓️ 10 September 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Dan Nathan welcomes Jeff Richards, Managing Partner at Notable Capital, to discuss the current state and trends in both private and public markets, especially regarding generative AI. They explore the evolving valuations of private AI companies, how big names like NVIDIA and Google are influencing market trends, and the dominance of the 'Mag 7' tech stocks. The conversation covers the recent Apple event and its potential integration of AI, why software stocks have been soft, and the ongoing challenges in the IPO market. Jeff also shares insights on shifting capital allocations, regulatory dynamics, and the future of AI-driven transformations across various sectors. The discussion ends with a deep dive into the role of private equity firms and the significant influence of private credit in today's higher interest rate environment. — View our show notes here Learn more about Current: current.com Listen to 'Strategic Alternatives': https://www.rbccm.com/en/gib/ma-inflection-points Email us at [email protected] with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod and follow us @OkayComputerPod. We’re on social: Follow @dee_bosa on Twitter Follow @GuyAdami on Twitter Follow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMedia Subscribe to our YouTube page

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0:00.0

Welcome to OK Computer. I am Dan Nathan, joined by Jeff Richards. He's the managing partner at Notable Capital. Jeff, welcome back to the pot.

0:09.7

Great to be here. Good to see you. You look good. As do you. You know, it's been a while. I think we last talk in April. And you know, you gave me a little bit of the rundown of what you were seeing in the private markets as it relates to generative AI, some of the valuations, just some of the trends that you were seeing. And then we obviously talk a bit about the public markets. To me, I think the public markets have been gaining a lot more of the headlines of late. Maybe there's a little open AI stuff, a little anthropic and the like, but it seems like a lot of

0:37.6

the rounds that we were hearing early this year, late last year of just X, you know, Google people

0:43.3

or Deep Mind or this, whatever, starting, you know, these things and being minted at like unicorns

0:48.0

right away, it seems like that's baited a little bit. So a couple of other things I just want to hit

0:52.0

here. I'll just set the stage really quickly. The Apple event, this glow time just got done as you and I are set to record. I love to hear

0:58.5

a little bit of some of the thoughts I watched it. I'm pretty uninteresting to me, but I guess the real

1:02.7

question is how they're going to integrate Gen.I. Models onto the device and what that means for

1:08.1

their services business. The other thing I got to hear, why is software so soft in the public markets here? I think that'll be something that you

1:15.6

will be able to help us with. And again, just kind of lay the land in the private markets.

1:20.6

Where do you want to start here, man? You want to set the stage for what you're most focused on right

1:25.0

now as a tech investor. I know one of the interesting things about you is that you have this kind of barbell approach. You're obviously very focused on investing in the

1:32.1

private markets, but you have tremendous knowledge and you lean on what's going on in the public

1:35.9

markets to help inform that. One of the big broad trends for the last few years has just been the

1:40.3

dominance of the mag seven. And I'm going to get to how that ties into the private market.

1:44.6

But it's really just astonishing when you look at the seven versus the other 493. And the way that

1:51.6

we perceive the strength of the market over the last two or three years, really so driven by those

1:56.3

companies. And if you own QQQQQ, you own SPI, you own any of these major ETFs or indexes,

2:01.6

you own so much of Apple and Nvidia and Microsoft and Google, which has obviously been good

2:06.6

for everybody who does.

2:07.7

But I think one of the interesting things that that also does is when you think about

2:11.0

people who are allocating assets all over the world, there was a tremendous amount of

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