AI Is Nothing Like a Brain, and That’s OK
The Quanta Podcast
Quanta Magazine
4.7 • 640 Ratings
🗓️ 20 May 2025
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Summary
The brain’s astounding cellular diversity and networked complexity could show how to make AI better.
This is the first episode of our new weekly series The Quanta Podcast, hosted by Quanta magazine Editor-in-Chief Samir Patel. This week's guest is Yasemin Saplakoglu; she recently published "AI Is Nothing Like a Brain, and That’s OK" for Quanta's AI special package.
(If you've been a fan of Quanta Science Podcast, it will continue as 'audio edition episodes' in this same feed every other week.)
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| 0:00.0 | Deep down, I know it's not thinking exactly this chat bot I'm testing out, but it's a pretty |
| 0:10.7 | convincing imitation. |
| 0:12.7 | I know, or I think I know, that the large language model behind it is really just crunching |
| 0:18.7 | massive amounts of data to predict the next word to say |
| 0:22.5 | and ultimately tell me what I want to hear or what I asked for. But wait a second, is that kind of |
| 0:28.6 | what my brain is doing all the time too? Welcome to the Quantum podcast where we explore |
| 0:35.6 | the frontiers of science and math. |
| 0:40.4 | I'm Samir Patel, editor-in-chief of Quantum Magazine. |
| 0:47.7 | For the inaugural episode of our new podcast, we're going to be talking about AIs and human brains and exploring how different and maybe a little alike they actually are. |
| 0:54.9 | The language of human thought, intelligence, learning, neurons, even hallucination, is built |
| 1:02.6 | into the way we talk about AI today. |
| 1:05.6 | So when we were planning a recent special issue about how AI is changing math and the |
| 1:10.5 | sciences, we wanted to ask whether |
| 1:13.6 | it's accurate or useful or troublesome to think of AI and language models in particular in these |
| 1:20.6 | terms. |
| 1:21.6 | I'm here with the author of one of the pieces from this package, which compared artificial neural networks with networks |
| 1:29.1 | made of actual neurons. It's Quanta, staff writer, Yasmin, Saplikolu. Welcome, Yasmin, to the show. |
| 1:37.1 | Thanks for having me and letting me nerd out about this. I'm excited to nerd out about this. |
| 1:42.0 | So one of the questions we like to ask going into these interviews is what's the big question |
| 1:47.2 | here? |
| 1:47.8 | Where are we going to end up at the end of our conversation? |
| 1:50.9 | So the big question, you have these incredible AI systems and you have this incredible |
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