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Agnes Callard on the Theory of Everything

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Conversations with Tyler

Society & Culture, Education

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2018

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Is a written dialogue the best way to learn from philosopher Agnes Callard?

If so, what does that say about philosophy? Is Plato’s Symposium about love or mere intoxication? If good people lived forever, would they be less bored than the bad people? Should we fear death? Is parenting undertheorized? Must philosophy rely on refutation? Should we read the classics? Is Jordan Peterson’s moralizing good? Should we take Socrates at his word? Is Hamlet a Cartesian? Are we all either Beethoven or Mozart people? How do we get ourselves to care about things we don’t yet care about? To what should we aspire to?

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Recorded March 22nd, 2018

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Today I'm here with Agnes Callard, who is a philosopher at the University of Chicago.

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She has a new book out called Asperation, the Agency of Becoming, but like a true philosopher,

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she philosophizes about many things.

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So let me just start with a simple question.

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Why didn't Plato just write what he meant?

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Why is there the form of a dialogue at all?

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I think it's reasonable to conclude that one thing Plato meant to do was to preserve the

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memory and the activity of Socrates.

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So there was this guy, there was this amazing guy who walked around asking people questions

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and thereby inventing a new way of thinking and a new way of life, but he didn't write

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anything down.

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And I think not just Plato, but a lot of people didn't want that to die with Socrates.

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So I think that was one of Plato's motivations.

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And yeah, what he did was a good way of achieving that goal.

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But this Plato even likes Socrates.

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So if I read these dialogues, it seems to me Socrates is full of fallacies.

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I tend to side more with protagonists and with the sophists.

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