Agent Pale Horse: Exposing the Truth by Living a Lie

The Conspiracy Tapes

Sony Music

True Crime, History, Society & Culture, Documentary

4 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Sharing an episode of Agent Pale Horse. It tells the story of FBI undercover agent Scott Payne, whose job it was to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times: outlaw bikers, drug cartels and the international neo-Nazi networks hellbent on inciting a race war. He was taking down these groups from within. And Scott was good at it — people confided in him their most audacious plans for mass violence and domestic terrorism. After a 28-year-long career pretending to be somebody else, agent Payne is ready to tell his side of the story, and an unvarnished view of a life undercover. In this episode, Scott has his first in-person meeting with The Base. Alone. He needs to convince the international neo-Nazi network that he's one of them. For more episodes, find and follow Agent Pale Horse on CBC’s White Hot Hate feed: https://link.mgln.ai/pZbzFD Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	FBI Special Agent Scott Payne went undercover to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times,
0:10.0	outlaw bikers, drug cartels, and an international neo-Nazi network that wants to start a race war.
0:18.0	I'm Michelle Shepard, and an Agent Pale Horse, the second season of CBC's
0:23.8	White Hot Hate, you'll hear an unvarnished view of what it looks like from the inside.
0:30.6	What's it like to live a lie your whole life in order to expose a truth?
0:36.3	To join the KKK one month and then be a hired hitman the next.
0:41.3	To become friends with a biker, you're trying to jail for life.
0:46.3	To almost lose your job, your marriage, and your mind.
0:50.3	After a 28-year-long career pretending to be someone else, Scott Payne is ready to tell his own
0:56.9	story. Now, here's the first episode of Agent Pale Horse.
1:09.0	The following episode contains strong language and descriptions of violence.
1:13.9	Please take care when listening.
1:17.8	Okay.
1:19.4	So let me start with the bass.
1:21.8	All right.
1:23.6	Ah, what a great group of guys.
1:26.6	Okay, so how did you...
1:28.5	Let me introduce you to Scott.
1:31.3	He's 6'4, 260, likes cowboy boots and Jack Daniels.
1:36.7	And in the summer of 2019, he wanted to join a group of white supremacists.
1:42.4	They called themselves the base. and Scott had already passed a
1:47.2	crucial phone interview. That Saturday, they reached out to me and said, hey, we'd like to have you
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