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AG Pam Bondi Faces the Senate in Chaotic Hearing

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The Bulwark

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Sam Stein and Andrew Egger are live, reacting to the extremely contentious Pam Bondi Senate hearing. Attorney General Pam Bondi is under fire before the Senate Judiciary Committee after the shocking indictment of former FBI Director James Comey—part of Donald Trump’s widening campaign to punish his political enemies.

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0:00.0

Hey guys.

0:01.2

It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the book. I'm joined by Andrew Egger, author of Morning Shots. And we just sat through. Wow. That was a long hearing. We've been sitting through four and a half hours of congressional testimony involving Pam Bondi. Boy, wasn't that long. Time flies, we're having fun, you know. Again, I'm not a i'm not a journalist not a mathematician

0:21.7

start at 9 a.m it's 1 40 p.m that's 4 hours and 40 minutes and i don't think they had a break

0:29.5

so that that's impressive stuff um it was um i don't know how would you describe it it was a lot

0:36.1

it was a lot it was contentious it? It was a lot. It was a lot. It was contentious. It was, there was a lot of yelling. At various points in time, you know, you get when you're watching one of these things, sometimes you get a little behind because you're transcribing some stuff, whatever, you jump forward. You could always tell whether Bondi was talking to a Republican or a Democrat just by the tone of her voice before you knew who she was who she was with.

0:56.8

I mean, she came loaded for bear in like peak TV pundit mode, ready to pivot from whatever question the Democrat was asking at any given time, of which there were many good ones, which we'll talk about, two whatever kind of prepared personal attacks she had on each individual Democratic senator.

1:14.5

Right.

1:15.0

It was, I don't know, it was unusual.

1:17.1

I'd say an unusual hearing even for these guys is how I'd put it.

1:20.6

Yeah, so she was definitely loaded bare, a lot of finger wagging,

1:24.1

and then, you know, when the Republicans took their turn, a lot of graciousness.

1:30.5

Look, we're going to, we'll have some moments to kind of laugh at it all and make fun of it all.

1:35.9

But there was something deeply serious about it that kind of, at the end, it kind of set in a little bit, which is that this is an almost perfect distillation

1:48.9

of how much Congresses abdicated their responsibility, or at least a portion of Congresses

1:55.3

abdicated their responsibility around very serious issues.

2:00.4

There were, and look, I get it because she wants to protect the president.

2:04.0

She's there on his behalf, I guess.

2:05.6

That's not the way it's supposed to be, but she is.

2:07.5

But, you know, Republicans, they don't have to play along with this.

2:10.8

But there are serious accusations and serious questions about a number of different things happening,

2:15.0

including National Guard being sent into the U.S. cities, Tom Homan taking a big cash bribe, the, you know, the James Comey indictment that

2:23.0

is apparently upended, a very important U.S. Attorney's Office in the Eastern District of New York.

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