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From the city of the Hague, welcome to Global Europe Unpacked, a podcast about Europe's engagement

with its neighbourhood and wider world.

This for the EU is quite new, because in the past it was always, oh yes, we're going to stand

up to them, but not if it means any sacrifice on our side.

Hello again and welcome back to Global Europe Unpacked, a series by commonspace.

EU in collaboration with the city of the Hague in which we host conversations on the future

of Europe in the world.

I am your host, Will Murray, and in today's episode, we are going to be looking at the future

of EU hard and soft power, especially in light's episode, we are going to be looking at the future of EU hard and soft

power, especially in light of the tragedy unfolding on the European continent with Russia's

ongoing invasion of Ukraine. Since its establishment, the EU has relied on soft power, such as

diplomacy, as well as economic instruments as its main foreign policy tools, leaving hard and

military power to its member states

and the main Western military alliance NATO. The concept of EU hard power is hardly new, but

has by and large remained up to now abstract. However, in light of the EU's growing place in the

world and recent events in Ukraine exposing threats that were thought to have been consigned to the

history books, what was once inconceivable is now starting to gain ground.

To address this topic, I shall be speaking to Dr Jamie Shea,

Professor of Strategy and Security at the University of Exeter.

In series one, I spoke to Jamie about EU strategic autonomy

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