I'm Dave Rubin, and joining me today is the editor at large of Reason Magazine and host

of the Reason Interview.

Nick Gillespie finally, welcome to the Rubin report.

Thanks for having me, Dave.

I really appreciate it.

So this is very bizarre for me to admit, but we played a clip of Real Time with Bill

Marl last week with Heidi Heitkamp, accusing Gina Carano of basically being a Nazi and

a white supremacist.

And you were sitting next, Heidi Heitkamp when she said this, and I played the clip, and

then I said, oh, there's my buddy Nick Gillespie from Reason Magazine for, I think I said

former guest of the Rubin report, and then we realized after that, we've never done this

somehow.

And I feel bad.

I usually don't apologize at the beginning of a show, but I feel bad that you've never

been here before.

I, in many contexts, I perform after, I apologize after performance failures.

So I, I, please don't apologize.

I'm happy to be here.

I know I've gotten to interview you twice once for reason, and once at a, students for Liberty

Liberty Con.

So it's nice to be on the other side of the mic.

All right.

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