Hey Jim Daley here. If you like the focus on the family broadcast and haven't

grown tired of this voice just yet, you'll love my ReFocus podcast. On ReFocus I

take a deeper dive with a respected thinker on different aspects of culture. I

ask those hard questions that maybe they don't get that often and I don't

shy away from challenging topics to help you share God's grace, truth, and love

with others. So listen to ReFocus with Jim Daley on your favorite streaming app

today.

One of my favorite things about working here at Focus on the Family is hearing

stories from people about how God restored their family, their relationship,

their kids. He brought a child back. Or as is the case for today, we'll hear a

clip from a couple who found God redeemed their marriage from brokenness.

I'm John Fuller along with Greg and Aaron Smolley. They lead our marriage team

here at Focus and today we're going to conclude a conversation that Jim Daley

and I had with Jeff and Cheryl Scruggs. Last time they discussed how they were

divorced from each other and God put it on Cheryl's heart to reach out and

to start seeking reconciliation. You know when I hear the story and see the

tears and see where you're at today, what strikes me is that especially here in

America with our children and with our marriages. We want this pristine

ness yet God teaches us so much in the valleys. I can only imagine I'd like it

to respond to this but I bet the depth of your relationship today with all of

the vulnerability, with all of the pain that you've gone through is more of a

mountaintop than you had before and something beautiful is in that and you know

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