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The DSR Network

After the Iran War, After Orbán, Could There Be Hope?

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.51.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump has run out of tricks in Iran. The war has not gone the way he had planned, nobody supports it, and now we are basically waiting for him to accept a bad deal and say it’s a good deal. To make a long story short, this war is a catastrophe and nothing is certain. But after Orbán’s defeat in Hungary and Trump’s ever-increasing popularity ahead of the 2026 midterms, could there be hope? Tom Nichols joins Ed Luce, Rosa Brooks, and David Rothkopf to discuss what this war means for our geopolitical future. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

9, 12, 10, 28, 2, 23.

0:17.2

This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

0:34.8

Hello, and welcome to the venerable Deep State Radio, the world's first podcast. We were

0:40.0

podcasting before there were podcasts. And we are here to talk about the world as we do and have

0:46.1

been doing ever since the Peloponnesian Wars. I am David Rothkoff and I am joined by three veterans

0:52.3

of the Peloponnesian Wars, including Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center.

0:57.2

How are you doing, Rosa?

0:58.6

And it's been a really long war, David.

1:00.6

And really.

1:02.2

It really has.

1:05.5

And Edward Luce of Financial Times, how are we doing it?

1:08.8

Very well, thank you.

1:10.3

Excellent.

1:13.6

And we're joined by our friend Tom Nichols, staff writer of the Times. How are you doing, Ed? Very well, thank you. Excellent. And we're joined by our friend Tom Nichols,

1:16.8

staff writer of the Atlantic. How are you doing?

1:18.2

Go, Athens.

1:22.2

Well, I knew you'd take sides. I knew you'd take sides. And Ed is deeply Spartan.

1:26.5

No, I'm not Spartan.

1:29.2

Very much not, but I like the...

1:32.5

It's a good guess.

1:33.7

No, it's a bad guess.

1:37.1

All right.

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