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🗓️ 5 March 2025
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When we first met Aeneas, he wished he could have died at Troy. Today, we find out why. By all accounts, the honorable thing to do would have been to go down with the burning citadel of his fathers. But this ain't your daddy's Iliad, and one thing we're learning is that honor and glory don't fetch quite the price they used to. If there's anyone who understands that it's Neoptolemus, AKA Pyrrhus, AKA Achilles' hellspawn, AKA the living wages of Greek decadence. It's not a pretty sight. Plus: what should we make of the Septuagint?
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0:00.0 | Well, it's been an eventful week, shall we say. |
0:05.0 | America, the TV show, is really popping off this season. |
0:09.0 | We've had all kinds of dramatic turns of events, |
0:13.0 | and a major theme of the week has actually been the difference between words and deeds. |
0:18.0 | This came up in the very heated Oval Office meeting between Donald |
0:22.6 | Trump and President Zelensky of Ukraine when J.D. Vance, the vice president, was contrasting the |
0:30.1 | tough words of the Biden administration with the tough deeds and actions of the Trump administration. |
0:35.2 | It was also something Zelensky talked about when he compared |
0:37.9 | the words and the deeds of Putin. He said Putin has gone back on his word again and again. And so |
0:43.9 | what use would a ceasefire be when he's always saying one thing and doing another? So this |
0:48.9 | difference, this contrast between words and deeds is actually an eternal theme of statecraft. It's one of the perennial |
0:57.2 | issues that humankind, especially nations at war, have dealt with throughout the ages. And it is also, |
1:04.0 | as luck or providence would have it, a crucial theme in the Inneid book two. Last week we saw |
1:10.7 | the pretty words of the Greeks. We saw how they talk. Now, once the Trojan horses in the walls and night falls, we are about to see how the Greeks act. And it ain't going to be pretty. Okay, things are getting real for Aeneas here. |
1:37.3 | I've called this part of the poem A trauma dump. |
1:40.3 | Book two of the Aeneid is a trauma dump, and that's really true. It's a story that Aeneas has been |
1:46.6 | invited to tell by Dido, Queen of Carthage, and it's the story of the central catastrophe, |
1:52.6 | the central tragedy of his life, the fall of Troy at the hands of the Greeks, the destruction |
1:57.8 | of his homeland. And this is something which I pray to God, none of my listeners |
2:04.2 | ever have to live through. I've never had to live through it. It's something that has been on |
2:09.3 | the public's mind recently with the war in Ukraine, with wars around the world, this idea of |
2:15.1 | displacement, of destruction, of disaster. it's indescribable, impossible |
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