Hey, 413ers. This is Jennifer Rothschild. There was one more thing that I wanted you to hear

from my conversation with Dr. Julie Slattery in episode 209. It's super practical and very

short and it's just how to manage differing opinions and responsibilities when it comes

to relationships. So you're going to hear me mid-question. I'm just going to start this

mid-question, but then you're going to hear Julie's complete answer, okay? So then after

you hear that, I want you to go to the show notes at 413podcast.com slash 209 because

you'll see a transcript of the episode 209 plus this little brief conversation and you'll

be able to check out her book and her podcast. So check out the rest of this conversation

with me and Julie.

We're going to head to the last question and get super pragmatic here, just how this

plays out in daily life. So like trying to figure out, so you're trying to learn this

submissive, powerful relationship you have here. And so it shows up in small things

of like figuring out, like who does what in marriage? It can be like a minefield, right?

Because it can explode if one person steps in the wrong place and doesn't do what they

said. So give us some really practical encouragement about like how a couple can get on the same

page when it comes to just the details like housework, like parenting, like all that kind

of stuff.

Yeah, so the details are, they're the part of the iceberg that you can see. So housework

and money and all those sort of things, that's the symptom. And so often we fight about

the symptom of why do I have to do all the work around the house or why won't you parent

the way I think you should parent. And we're real healing and intimacy take places when

we get below that symptom. And we're really looking at the dynamic of our marriage.

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