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Hi everybody, Cheryl Ackison here. Welcome to another edition of Full Measure After Hours.

Today, an interview with a key figure in the botched US withdrawal from Afghanistan,

a high-ranking military officer who spoke out on social media to demand accountability from his superiors

and got court-martialed for it.

Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller of the Marines did something very controversial,

something that broke the rules. As the US withdrawal from Afghanistan went from bad to worse,

he posted a series of social media videos demanding accountability from his superiors

and top political figures. That accountability, by the way, never came.

Well, let me rephrase that. Scheller was held accountable for breaking military rules by speaking out the way he did.

Nobody else was held accountable for the loss of US and Afghan lives and for poor strategy and poor decision-making.

Sunday on Full Measure, January 24th, an interview Scheller who was jailed and court-martialed and is now out of the military,

I hope you'll watch the interview. In the meantime, here is some of it to listen to.

Prior to the controversy, what would you say in just a paragraph is the story of Mr. Scheller?

Prior to the controversy, Stu Scheller was an infantry officer.

He had served for 17 years and he was a father, a husband, serving his country.

In the big picture with what's happened since and then we'll dig into it.

But if you're writing a book on this and you may, what would the flaps say? This is a story of what?

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