After Hours: (Breaking) NIH Hands Over Royalty Docs It Had Been Keeping Secret
Full Measure After Hours
Sharyl Attkisson
5 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 11 August 2023
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
The watchdog OpenTheBooks.com just received some unredacted documents the National Institutes of Health had been trying to hide regarding private company royalties that government scientists collect.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everybody. Cheryl Ackison here. Welcome to another edition of Full Measure After |
| 0:10.0 | Hours. Today, a breaking news update on a story we covered some months back on Full Measure |
| 0:16.4 | about conflicts of interest, government side is paid by you, and royalties they collect |
| 0:22.4 | from private pharmaceutical companies. |
| 0:32.6 | Today, a follow-up with some breaking news from Open the Books and Adam Angiesky, |
| 0:38.4 | founder of Open the Books.com. |
| 0:45.6 | I'm the founder and CEO of Open the Books.com. |
| 0:48.6 | We had you on an episode of Full Measure earlier this year with a really interesting and |
| 0:53.4 | important issue that you're going to update for us in a big way today. But let's start with a |
| 0:58.2 | little bit of the background before the big news. Can you explain the backdrop of all of this |
| 1:04.6 | taking place? You basically tried to get information from the National Institutes of Health. |
| 1:09.5 | Can you characterize the information of what their initial response was? |
| 1:13.8 | So the National Institutes of Health, they've done everything possible to try to stop us, Cheryl, |
| 1:19.6 | from making this information public on third-party royalties. I think at the height of the pandemic, |
| 1:25.1 | the American people started to feel that big government was very close to Big Pharma. |
| 1:30.8 | And we keyed on this database as important information to show people exactly how close they are. |
| 1:38.4 | Every single year we know that going out the door at the National Institutes of Health |
| 1:44.8 | are over $30 billion worth of grants to about 50,000 entities across the entire healthcare |
| 1:52.4 | space which buys you a lot of friends, buys you a lot of allies. Now we know coming back through |
| 1:56.8 | the other door has been $325 million since 2009 in what's known as third-party royalties |
| 2:05.5 | from the industry and reaching the National Institutes of Health, the agency, its leadership |
| 2:11.0 | and up to 2407 of its scientists. Let's break that down a little bit and digestible pieces before |
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