This is a clip from the After Dark Show with Don Rogers.

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What led you to the healer aspect of this area?

Like, I guess it's a community, we'll call it that.

But, like, there's people that are drawn to

the healer aspect like people like me and stephen and chris and the rest of us at fkn are like

the ones that need to share the information and ask the questions there's people like you and

kaila and others in the community that are drawn to the Reiki or the energy work.

It seems like we all have very specific pieces that we're supposed to be playing out in the awakening.

But what was it that drew you to that those types of modalities, I guess?

I guess for me, it was my dad, actually.

He was diagnosed with cancer when I was 18 and died when I was 21. And that was a very pivotal time for, it is for most people. It's when you're moving out of the house and on your own for the first time.

And I just saw the pain that he was in.

And I saw what the medical system was doing to him.

And it broke my heart. And all I wanted was to take my dad's pain away.

And it was the driving force for a long time.

So I sent out for a teacher.

I said, I don't know how to take his pain away.

So I sent out for a teacher and I ended up studying for a couple of years under a shaman

who was a teacher at a massage therapy school in Charlotte, North Carolina. But I told him, I said,

I don't have the money to pay for massage therapy school.

He said, no worries, you're supposed to be a healer, so I'll teach you.

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