This is

this is CBS I and the world.

I'm John Bachelor visiting with Gregory Coppley, my friend,

the editor and publisher of Defense and Foreign Affairs, he's in the southern hemisphere.

In Perth, Australia regarding the Indian Ocean, the Indo-Pacific.

We're going to East Africa and West Africa.

As the Financial Time says,

this is the largest battle zone not noticed

by the European and American media

in the galaxy right now.

The headline in the F.T.

How Sudan's Devastating Civil War became a global battle crowd, subhead.

150,000 dead, millions displaced states including Russia, Iran, and the UAE are jocking

for influence.

But the conflict still flies under the radar for London and New York and Washington.

Gregory, we've touched on Sudan on and off these last years because of Ethiopia.

The war in Sudan is now two sides. Once it was one side supporting

Bashir, the dictator, that's gone. The two sides are Russia's side and not Russia's side.

They're fighting for control to Sudan, but that also means they're fighting at the edge of Ethiopia.

First of all, the Sudan War, is it now in the hands of Moscow and Beijing and nothing to be done?

No, I wouldn't say that. I think it's in, it's very much in a state of flux although it's quite clear that the

Sudan armed forces which has become the de facto government and General

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