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This is CBS I On The World. Here's John Bachelors.

This is CBS I On The World. I'm John Bachelors. Afghanistan, a headline from the military times.

Russian Chinese diplomats attend conference on Afghanistan. The foreign ministers of four countries

met in Samarcan, Uzbekistan, and discussed the need to cooperate with Afghan authorities

to maintain political stability and to prevent humanitarian crisis. This, of course,

according to the Russian foreign ministry. And the four countries, Russia, China, Iran, and Pakistan.

I welcome Bill Rojyo, the foundation for the defensive democracies.

Senior fellow, he keeps the long word journal with his colleagues. We're looking at a development

in Eurasia that has significance given what we just heard from the Washington about the catastrophe

of the leaving of Afghanistan in August of 2021. Now we have three adversaries, Russia,

China, and Iran, speaking of peace and stability and humanitarian crisis in the nation that

Biden administration chose to exit. Bill, there's so many ironies here. I want to come to the

what we know about Afghanistan's governance right now. I'm led to believe that it's

random that it's gun-based, weapons-based, and that it is constantly needy of cash,

not because it is doing so much work for people who might be starving in great numbers, the millions,

and certainly just pass through a rough winter without adequate energy. But because it's gangster

thinking, the more cash we have, the more powerful we are in the organization. How do you measure

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