This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batch with my colleagues, Susanne O'Connie and Bill

Rageau. Mr. Ambassador, I'm from Pakistan, former ambassador from Pakistan, in the United

States. Twin crises, triple crises in your country ever since the flooding, the extreme

food insecurity for a major part of the population. At the same time, the former prime minister

Imran Khan continues to stir trouble, especially in the large cities. Right now, there's a crop

failure in addition to the people who have returned to their damaged crops and their damaged

flood residents. And Imran Khan is again in the news arrested or not arrested, charged

or not charged. Or these are one story now. Is Imran Khan taking advantage of the economic

distress and does that aid him? Imran Khan is oblivious to the plight of the people of Pakistan.

He's a narcissist in the mode of some other narcissist populist leaders we've seen around the world.

He cares about himself. His grievance about being removed from power overtakes everything.

And so I wouldn't say that he is taking advantage of it. I would just say that he is acting

in a way in which it has become more difficult to resolve the problem. The government needs a

deal, for example, with the IMF, but they are afraid of what Imran Khan will say to any harsh

measures that they agree that constitute economic reform. And essentially, there is chaos

distracting the government from paying any attention to the plight of the masses.

And the economic crisis has economic reasons. And those economic reasons are further being

aggravated because they are not being attempted to due to the distraction of everybody in the country

by the political circus that is being led by Imran Khan. And does turmoil suit Khan?

I think that Khan actually is one of those who thinks that if he can't run the country,

then nobody should. So he'll bring the house down. And that's what he's trying to do. He thinks

that in the chaos, the army will cut a deal with him and say, okay, man, let's listen to you.

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