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Woman's Hour

Afghan midwives, DJ Annie Mac, Artist Chila Burman, Surviving grief

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

There have been reports that Afghan women are being banned from midwife and nursing courses in the latest blow to their rights. Women training as midwives and nurses in Afghanistan have told the BBC they were ordered not to return to classes, and five separate institutions across Afghanistan have also confirmed to the BBC that the Taliban had instructed them to close until further notice, with videos shared online showing students crying at the news. The BBC has yet to confirm the order officially with the Taliban government's health ministry. Anita Rani discusses what is potentially happening with BBC Diplomatic Correspondent Caroline Hawley.

After the actor Anna Maxwell Martin spoke on the programme about the grief she experienced after her husband died suddenly in 2021, we were inundated with listeners sharing their stories. Two of them, Giselle De Hasse and Heather Ashley, join Anita to talk about how they manage their grief day to day, along with Dr Shelley Gilbert, the founder and president of Grief Encounter and a consultant psychotherapist.

Daytime clubbing is a thing. All over the country, events are taking place, where you party early - and finish early - with plenty of time to be in your bed at a reasonable hour. So, whatever happened to the big night out? Is 3pm the new 9pm? And why are these early evening finishes becoming so popular? Anita is joined by DJ Annie Mac, the broadcaster, author, and events curator. Annie started her own version of an early finishing club event Before Midnight in 2022, with her 'nights' now running UK-wide.

The artist Chila Kumari Singh Burman creates kaleidoscopic paintings, prints, etchings and moving images inspired by her Indian heritage. Chila was born in Toxteth in Merseyside and use materials like bindis and ice cream cones in her installations to represent her Asian identity as well as her working-class Liverpudlian childhood. She says she aims to challenge stereotypes and create an alternative perspective of Britishness. Chila joins Anita to talk about her eponymous book which brings together work from four decades and Neon Dreams, her exhibition at The Holburne Museum in Bath, which includes a life-size neon tiger in the ballroom and a giant multi-coloured neon lightshow on the façade of the museum building.

Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Rebecca Myatt

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're about to listen to a BBC podcast, but this is about something else you might enjoy.

0:05.4

My name's Katie Lecky and I'm an assistant commissioner for on demand music on BBC Sounds.

0:10.8

The BBC has an incredible musical heritage and culture and as a music lover, I love being part of that.

0:17.5

With music on sounds, we offer collections and mixes for everything, from workouts to

0:22.4

helping you nod off, boogie in your kitchen, or even just a moment of calm. And they're all put

0:28.3

together by people who know their stuff. So if you want some expertly curated music in your life,

0:35.0

check out BBC Sounds.

0:41.3

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts. Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:46.3

Good morning and welcome to the programme.

0:49.3

Now, when the actor Anna Maxwell Martin was on the programme a few weeks ago,

0:53.3

she spoke very honestly about how grief had impacted her life,

0:57.8

first from losing her father as a young woman

1:00.0

and then through losing the father of her children.

1:03.4

Well, many of you were moved enough to message us about your own experiences of grief,

1:08.2

and today I'll be speaking to two listeners about how they coped.

1:12.1

Also on the program writer, broadcaster, DJ, Annie Mack will be here to tell us all about

1:17.5

the joys of going out dancing before midnight and the demise of clubbing generally.

1:22.6

So my questions to you are, were you an old school raver who now breaks into a sweat at the

1:27.2

thought of not

1:27.6

being in bed at a decent hour? Are you a clubber whose children have no interest in going out?

1:32.2

And day raving does it appeal to you? Get in touch. Also, one of my favourite artists, Shaila Berman,

1:38.1

will be telling us about neon tigers and ice cream cones and having no choice but to be political.

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