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Axios Re:Cap

Affirm CEO Max Levchin on today's IPO and the future of fintech

Axios Re:Cap

Axios

Daily News, News

4.5705 Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2021

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Affirm, a “buy now pay later” company led by PayPal co-founder and former CEO Max Levchin, went public today at a valuation of nearly $15 billion – and then saw its share price more than double. Dan goes deeper with Levchin to discuss the IPO, the future of fintech and the role of payments processors.

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Dan Permanak and welcome to Axios Recap. Today is Wednesday, January 13th.

0:08.3

Impeachment is being debated in Congress, Airbnb is out of Washington, D.C. during

0:13.6

inauguration week, and we're focused on a firm in the future of FinTech.

0:20.2

Earlier today, a buy-now pay- pay later lender called Affirm made its debut on the NASDAQ.

0:26.6

By the time it began trading, it was worth nearly $30 billion.

0:30.6

Four reasons why it matters.

0:32.6

First, a firm is led by Max Levchen, who is really one of the godfathers of digital payments having co-founded

0:39.2

PayPal. Two, it's basically out to destroy credit cards, or at least to serve as a viable

0:44.5

alternative to them. The company provides loans for purchases from thousands of merchants,

0:50.3

including online ones like Peloton, Warby Parker, and Casper.

1:00.0

Three, the broader fintech market is on fire, just absolute fire right now, despite the country's broader economic problems. Just yesterday, for example, a fintech company

1:04.0

called Plaid canceled its $5.3 billion takeover by Visa. The official reason was an antitrust lawsuit, but sources tell

1:12.1

me the unofficial reason is that Plaid felt the price had gotten very stale and had gotten

1:16.8

sellers' remorse. Four, as we've discussed on this show in other contexts, payments can be

1:22.4

where the rubber really meets the road when it comes to changing behavior. Think of Visa

1:26.7

and MasterCard refusing

1:27.8

to service Pornhub subscriptions or Stripe recently deciding to no longer process payments for

1:33.0

the Trump campaign. So we want to dig deeper into a firm and the role and future of FinTech

1:39.1

with the firm CEO Max Levchen. So Max, Max, let's start with the obvious kind of financial IPO stuff.

1:48.1

You guys raise the range of your IPO.

1:50.6

You price above the raised range, $49 a share.

1:53.6

But just a few minutes before you and I start taping this,

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