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AEWCH 267: JOHN HOLLOWAY / WHAT IS RADICAL HOPE?

Against Everyone with Conner Habib

Against Everyone With Conner Habib

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.8679 Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2024

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Hope is dead. Long live hope! Whereas once hope was simply an audacious wish that we turned over to representatives of power, hope now can be a radical act through which we erode power.

But how? How do we leverage hope to help us direct and engage rather than simply wish and spectate?

To investigate this, I asked one of the most exciting and influential political thinkers of our time, JOHN HOLLOWAY.

John is the author of many influential and internationally recognized books, including Hope in Hopeless Times (the last in a series of books about how to find new strategies of flourishing and living away from capitalism, starting with Change the World Without Taking Power: The Meaning of Revolution Today and its sequel, Crack Capitalism.) He teaches sociology in the Benemérita Universidad Autónoma de Puebla, and has worked with the Zapatista movement.

In this episode, we talk about hope without delusion. Dreaming big without forgetting to act, acting small without forgetting the big vision, how and why we need to get rid of money, and more. I'm so happy to have spoken with John and to share this with you!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is against everyone with Connor Habib.

0:03.0

Friends, have you noticed that the assertion of inevitability seems to be cropping up everywhere?

0:10.0

It's stalking us at every turn and it's a presence that we should take seriously because it's almost always a threat.

0:19.0

There is, of course, the inevitability of climate change, the

0:23.7

collective death we accept unless the state rescues us somehow from it. There is the inevitability

0:31.0

of AI and the acceleration of AI. In fact, inevitability is the marketing language of corporations working on AI.

0:40.3

And there's also what we sometimes I think view as a sort of positive inevitability. The

0:46.3

idea that history is on our side, that people committing atrocities right now will be judged

0:53.3

by history inevitably.

0:55.8

These are all enemies of directive, enemies of our will, of our ability to do much more than

1:03.6

spectate. What we need now is not inevitability, but involvement. Because we accept the inevitable, we end up talking about things

1:17.4

in terms of crisis, crisis after crisis, because we think of crises as ruptures. There are ruptures that we didn't enact, that we didn't do. They're

1:30.3

eruptions of something that seem to sever us from history. But that's not really what they do.

1:37.0

They don't sever us from history. They're not blasts of power that knock us into new directions and those directions terrify us as if we've

1:48.9

been dragged there or just transported to a new hellish realm we use the language of crisis

1:56.9

because we think perhaps that it can revitalize our will.

2:03.6

If there's an immediate crisis, we think, we'll have no choice but to act.

2:08.6

If you think of a small crisis, for example, some trouble that's happening right in front of you,

2:15.6

the idea is, well, if I saw it, I would do

2:17.8

something about it. Let's say a bird flies into your house and you take care of it. Or there's someone

2:24.4

who's about to walk into the street and get hit by a car. You call out to them or pull them back.

2:32.0

And I think that crisis is imagined to have this effect on us in a worldly way,

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