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Hi, this is William Ramsey.

Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show.

I have a very special guest.

One of my favorite guests and one of my audience's favorite guests.

His name is Dr. Hans, who's her last name spelled, U-T-E-R.

And I'll put a link to his website. He's definitely multi-talented musician, but we've done shows on music for the

masses. That was an eight-part series, and now we're kind of, this will be our third part on a

title of the show, which is a long, kind of a long title, but I think it covers a lot of the

stuff that was happening during the Cold War.

According to with the Soviet Union, the full title is Advanced to Soviet Research on Cybernetics, Biofield Energetics, and Cognitive Restructuring.

So all those things working together.

And we did our last show.

We kind of were

talking about Bateson and Margaret Mead and this whole show about trance dance

and trance in Bali which is really something else something else that they

studied but we were talking in the pre-show like I remember Margaret Mead and

you'll see this on the if you're watching this live on X or Rockfin or YouTube, this picture of Margaret Mead, but when I was growing up, she was like an eminently quotable person.

Like she was seen as a woman's liberation, kind of, you know, positive female person.

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