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🗓️ 16 July 2022
⏱️ 58 minutes
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This week on The Treatment, Elvis sits down for a conversation with graphic novelist Adrian Tomine, whose recent work inspired the film “Paris, 13th District.” Next, a conversation with TV creators, writing partners, and partners in life, Michelle and Robert King, whose current TV dramas include “The Good Fight” and “Evil.” And finally for The Treat, MUBI podcast host Rico Gagliano talks about why the, at times, bleak Wim Wenders film “Wings of Desire” gives him hope.
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0:00.0 | From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment. |
0:14.6 | Welcome to the treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell, and I'm lucky enough to have a guest who came up in a period where you could be influenced by both |
0:20.8 | Charles Burns and Charles Schultz. Your fan of influences could go from the Hernandez brothers |
0:25.8 | to Johnny Ramita. My guest is Adrian Tonin. His incredible series of, I guess, graphic storytelling |
0:32.2 | for me goes back to optic nerve. That's how old I am. But I was thrilled to see recently |
0:36.4 | that the filmmaker |
0:37.5 | Jacques Odiar had turned one of his books into a movie. The movie is Paris 13th District. |
0:44.0 | Adrian, I want to ask you, it seems to me in seeing the movie that the Lee character, Camille, |
0:48.8 | in the book, in the movie, rather, is kind of based on Ben from shortcomings. |
0:53.0 | I wonder. I, you know, I don't think that that was |
0:56.2 | negotiated explicitly, but I think I'm the worst judge of this, but there have been people who've said, |
1:04.7 | you know, that one shot reminded me of an illustration that you did or, you know, things outside of |
1:09.5 | what was supposedly the, the material that was used as |
1:13.7 | inspiration. |
1:14.6 | That part of the story also leaned pretty heavily on a story that wasn't in killing and dying. |
1:20.9 | It was in an older book called Summer Blonde. |
1:23.2 | Yes. |
1:23.8 | Yeah, that story was called Hawaiian Getaway. |
1:26.3 | You came to the age where you could see all kinds of different things, |
1:30.0 | and people like Charles Burns and Chester Brown were doing things. |
1:33.4 | Sure. |
1:33.5 | And the Hernandez brothers, Guthers, starts sort of blending the fantastic with the mundane, sort of the quotidian, |
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