Hello there I'm Chuck Todd and this is the Chuck Todd cast after weeks and months of

posturing.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine changes the conversation from how to prevent Putin from

invading to.

How can the West punish or defeat Putin now that he's made his move?

Well recording on Friday morning, early this morning the leaders of NATO met for a virtual

summit to discuss the attack.

The NATO Secretary General, Jan Stolenberg, began by saying that Russia has shattered

peace on the European continent.

I guess today is retired Admiral James Stavredi, a former NATO Supreme Allied commander of

Europe and the author of a 2034 novelization about the next world war.

I hope 2034, I think we've all hoped that that was a date that was too soon to pick in

history but who knows maybe, maybe not.

I'm all welcome to the talk there.

Great to be with you Chuck.

Yeah, the novel is about a war between the US and China.

Let's hope it doesn't transpose itself to the European theater.

Yeah and that your three wasn't actually at two.

Let's talk about NATO.

Ukraine's not a NATO nation but it borders NATO nations.

What's going on in Poland right now?

What's Poland thinking, what are they fearing, what are they hoping, what do they need from

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