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I didn't know if it was workaholism. I didn't know if it was stress from work. I didn't

know if it was the pouring resurfacing, but partly I didn't want to know. It's so much

easier to pretend everything's okay and to just keep going through the motions. That's

not okay. What that is is us avoiding pain. Pain is not a problem. It's a gift from God.

When you feel the pain, that's God's friendly messenger saying there's something that

together we can fix if you're willing to be brave enough and feel the pain.

Welcome to Family Life Today where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most.

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So there's a little secret, I think, in the church. Literally last night looked up a stat to say,

okay, is my secret confirmed? 68% of men, church men, 50% of pastors look at porn. I don't

know if those numbers are accurate right now, but that's what I saw last night. That's a big secret.

Yeah, I mean, it's like people are talking about it a little bit, but it's still like it's in

marriages, it's in spout. I guarantee they're so spout listening right now who is thinking my wife

doesn't know or my husband doesn't know that I struggle with this either like it's almost like

an addiction like daily or weekly or it's been three months and I sort of splurge and purge, but it's

something I am struggling with and it's a secret. But not only do that, Dave, but I feel like we're

in epidemic kind of proportions because it's taking men and women now out of the game spiritually

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