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The Mismatch

Adam Silver’s Tough Week, Trae Young Claps Back, and What to Do With Jonathan Kuminga

The Mismatch

The Ringer

Sports

4.75.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Verno and Jacoby are back as they continue to discuss the evolving story about Kawhi Leonard, Steve Ballmer, and Aspiration. Also, they detail how commissioner Adam Silver has mishandled the Clippers situation and his backtracking comments after calling the NBA a "highlights-based sport." Next, they discuss the latest with Jonathan Kuminga and debate whether he’ll start the season with the Warriors or somewhere else before shifting their attention to the latest war of words between Patrick Beverley and Trae Young. The guys finish out the episode with some rapid-fire news from around the league. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!(00:48) Even more evidence surrounding Kawhi Leonard, Steve Ballmer, and Aspiration(18:15) Adam Silver on the Clippers mess and backtracking his "highlights" league comments(24:36) Latest on Jonathan Kuminga(35:58) Patrick Beverley vs. Trae Young(46:19) Confidence level of an in-shape Joel Embiid with the Sixers(48:09) Michael Malone full time at ESPN(49:05) NBC is placing sideline reporters closer to team benches(52:39) Should the Knicks retire Carmelo Anthony’s number?(56:30) How many movies do you think you’ve seen 10 times? Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David JacobyProducers: Jessie LopezSocial: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:45.5

the ringer.com is Dave Jacoby-Cobo.

0:48.3

What's happening in Verno?

0:49.1

I have heard more about Kauai Leonard, Pablo Tori and Mark Cuban than I care to in the last month.

0:59.0

It's getting ridiculous.

1:00.9

We needed something to fill the void.

1:03.6

Now, we do have a lot of things that have filled the void as we've been doing one show a week.

1:10.5

And we, I will say, we do have a lot of things that

1:13.7

we're going to get to that have filled the void since we last spoke.

1:16.9

This Kauai Leonard's story though has taken precedence over everything.

1:20.5

We have got first Pablo Tori and all of his outstanding reporting on the matter.

1:27.4

And then we're followed up with the Baxter Holmes article,

1:32.0

which quoted all manner of Clippers sources,

1:35.9

talking about how they were slowly moving away from the Kauai business.

1:41.1

And then a lot of,

1:48.6

there's a lot of things that were mentioned in the article like the headlines are going to be like they're done building around him and all

1:53.4

but but the details of it were super interesting it was like okay this has been a long time, but now people are willing to

2:04.1

talk about this because it's like, okay, he's brought like, this is now. We have reached

2:09.9

mega bad press time. So let's go ahead and talk to everybody about how terrible this

2:16.7

cool high letter thing has been.

2:18.5

You know he's only played 58% of his games, but did you know that his camp doesn't even let anybody talk about him?

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