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That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

Adam Rutherford

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

ESPN Radio

Sports

3.93.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2020

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Sarah talks to geneticist Adam Rutherford about why he's skeptical of the wave in online ancestry kits, how race is a social construct, how science is not great at providing narrative satisfaction, and other insights from his book, "How to Argue With a Racist" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

That's what she said. That's what she said. That's what she said. That's what she said. Well, that's what she said.

0:10.9

Welcome to That's what she said. Conversations with interesting people from the world of sports music comedy and more

0:17.2

Talking about their lives, careers, successes and failures. I'm Adam Rutherford and my dilemma is I simply cannot get my dog to learn

0:25.0

Recall and come back to me in the park when I learn them off the lead.

0:27.9

Okay, so the good news is that you mentioned that your dog is still a puppy and just a few months old and that is very key

0:34.2

Because if you ever went to the park with me and any of my three dogs

0:37.7

You would very quickly presume not to ask me this question

0:41.1

Knowing that I would not be able to answer with any authority

0:43.6

Because they they do not come in fact when we go to my parents house in Michigan for the weekend if my dog

0:48.6

Fletcher runs into the woods and he doesn't come back

0:51.4

Yelling comes does not work we're left with two equally bad options

0:55.2

One is just to keep yelling treat over and over until he eventually comes back

1:00.0

Or the very widely recommended I think professionally derived practice of just screaming in a really high pitch until they think something amazing is going on

1:09.4

Um, which really sounds just like this

1:13.1

oh

1:15.4

And just doing that over and over until they come which they sometimes don't for quite some time

1:20.9

But they are old and we've sort of given up you still have time and so I assume you started with the obvious, you know, recommended

1:28.0

Very slow patient repetitive inside practicing the direction of come over and over again with treats every time

1:34.4

And then you move to a different room and then you go outside while they're teller to something and then eventually you put some distractions in the way

1:40.8

It's very slow. It's very tedious

1:43.1

Uh, you can't let them off the leash and start calling when they're not ready yet because then they just hear the word calm

1:47.5

Is some sort of gibberish and they know it means nothing if they do it or not

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