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Soul Boom

Adam Grant Breaks the Confidence Myth

Soul Boom

Rainn Wilson

Mental Health, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness, Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.8610 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

Adam Grant (NYT bestselling author of Think Again and organizational psychologist at Wharton) joins us to unpack why everything we believe about confidence might be backward. From navigating failure and perfectionism to learning how to detach worth from work, Adam explores why passion isn’t something you “find,” how spirituality intersects with identity, and how reframing narratives can lead to a more meaningful life. Plus, the secret to motivation might not be what you think. THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS! Fetzer 👉⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.stamps.com/soulboom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⏯️ SUBSCRIBE!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👕 MERCH OUT NOW! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📩 SUBSTACK!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  FOLLOW US! 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram: http://instagram.com/soulboom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉 TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://tiktok.com/@soulboom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  CONTACT US! Sponsor Soul Boom: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Work with Soul Boom: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Send Fan Creations, Questions, Comments: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Executive Produced by: Kartik Chainani Executive Produced by: Ford Bowers, Samah Tokmachi Companion Arts Production Supervisor: Mike O'Brien Theme Music by: Marcos Moscat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

The mistake a lot of people make, when they encounter a failure or a setback, they fall victim to three peas.

0:06.0

This sounds like classic Adam Grant.

0:09.0

Personalization, this is all my fault.

0:11.0

Pervasiveness is going to ruin every part of my life.

0:14.0

In permanence, it's going to ruin it forever.

0:17.0

And all of a sudden it hit me.

0:18.0

I had the relationship between confidence and action backward.

0:22.1

Ooh.

0:22.6

The only way I would build my confidence was...

0:24.6

Hey there. It's me, Rain Wilson.

0:33.2

And I want to dig into the human experience.

0:35.5

I want to have conversations about a spiritual revolution.

0:38.9

Let's get deep with our favorite thinkers, friends, and entertainers about life, meaning, and idiocy.

0:45.9

Welcome to the Soul Boom podcast.

0:53.2

Adam, I like to warm into things a little bit.

0:56.8

And I just wanted you to know that there are three things, at least that you have deeply in common with Jason Statham.

1:08.4

Okay, wait, I know two of them.

1:10.3

You know two of them? I'm bald, him, and he is a much more elite diver than I was. That's right. Oh my gosh, how did you know that? I mean, it's a sport without a lot of people to look up to who are famous. Literally the top celebrities in springboard diving are Jason Statham and Adam Grant. There's a long drop off from one to two, if that's your thesis. But yeah, before, actually,

1:32.4

before I knew of him as an actor, I had seen him compete on the international stage.

1:37.4

You're kidding me. Three meter springboard diver and a 10 meter platform diver. He was a British star. Yeah, he was on the British, like,

1:46.5

national diving team. Forever. He could have been in the Olympics or something like that.

1:50.4

I have multiple domains of envy because of him. Incredible. And you got the paint right.

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