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🗓️ 2 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | I called up the American prospects David Dayan yesterday because I had this question gnawing at me. |
| 0:12.4 | As I watched the government sputter to a close on Tuesday, the whole project felt off. |
| 0:18.1 | More like a whimper than a bang, which was weird because this show has been anticipating |
| 0:23.7 | a government shutdown for weeks. And I knew that when I asked David why I was feeling this way, |
| 0:30.6 | he'd have an answer for me. Well, because we've really been in kind of a slow motion shutdown |
| 0:37.4 | for quite a while now. |
| 0:40.3 | What David means here is that the Trump administration has been sending government employees |
| 0:46.3 | home for months, clawing back federal funding, too. A shutdown is what happens when |
| 0:53.0 | congressionally appropriated funds run out. |
| 0:56.2 | But the truth is, Congress has been sitting on the sidelines of appropriations all year. |
| 1:02.4 | So the Trump administration has withheld something like if we believe the calculations of the Senate and House Appropriations Committee's Democratic staffs, |
| 1:14.9 | $410 billion in funding, that, just to give you the numbers, is close to half of all non-defense discretionary spending in the last fiscal year. |
| 1:30.8 | The president has been spending on what he likes and not spending on what he doesn't like. And that's kind of what happens in a government |
| 1:37.5 | shutdown. And so that's why I think it feels like nothing has fundamentally changed. |
| 1:45.0 | Different reporters have explained the cognitive dissonance of this moment in their own terms. |
| 1:51.3 | Some have attributed the strangeness to which party seems most committed to pulling the federal plug. |
| 1:58.5 | Unlike in previous shutdowns, Democrats are the ones who withheld their votes |
| 2:03.6 | and effectively turned out the lights. But David says that framing is not quite fair. |
| 2:10.3 | The president now bolstered by the Supreme Court has the ability to pick and choose what he wants to |
| 2:17.3 | spend. So, you know, the idea that |
| 2:20.2 | there's even government funding at all rather than a government suggestion of funding that then |
| 2:27.4 | the emperor king decides, yes, I will, I will send that funding out or no, I won't, is quite ridiculous. That is the reality of this |
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