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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Actually, The Election Was Closer Than You Think

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

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4.4663 Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

NPR's senior political editor/correspondent, Domenico Montanaro, talks about the latest national political news from over the holiday weekend.

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0:00.0

From WNYC Studios, I'm Brian Lerer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday, December 2nd.

0:15.0

I noticed over the last few days that some updated exit polls from the election have come out now that almost all the votes

0:22.1

have been counted in the presidential race beyond those that were, you know, enough to call a winner

0:27.7

on November 6th. So with some downtime of my own this weekend, not on deadline for a show,

0:34.6

I thought I would take a deep dive into some of those numbers.

0:38.4

And so I did some reading. And I'm going to share with you some things that I read that

0:42.9

you might find interesting. First of all, and maybe most important, this was a close presidential

0:49.2

election, not a landslide and not necessarily a national realignment, as some people have called it.

0:58.1

The latest NBC news count of the total vote has Trump winning the national popular vote by

1:04.4

only around one and a half points, 1.6 points to be exact. Close.

1:18.9

An ABC News analysis, state by state, says if Harris had just gotten 1.8% more votes in Pennsylvania,

1:22.1

Wisconsin, and Michigan, she would have won the election.

1:24.1

That one is worth saying again. If Harris had gotten 1.8% more votes in Pennsylvania and in Wisconsin and in

1:32.4

Michigan, that little bit more in just those three states, she would have won the election.

1:38.6

So if nothing else, we can say we are a pretty evenly divided country as measured by this election.

1:45.6

Still, Trump got about 3 million votes more than he did in 2020, by the counts I'm seeing.

1:52.1

Harris got around 7 million fewer than Biden 2020.

1:57.4

So the decline in Democratic turnout remains probably a bigger factor than people who shifted

2:04.3

their votes, despite the shifts getting most of the headlines.

2:08.3

But some shifts did take place and are also important and contributed to Trump's percentage

2:13.7

point gain.

2:14.7

So now I'll give you some of the interesting specific results that I saw

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