Our humanity is being tested every day.

We're always being asked to choose sides.

We are being told that one position is right

and one position is wrong.

And yes, of course, sometimes that is true.

And also, like, what does it mean for us to be able to hold complexity?

And I think like that is what a good life is for us. A lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like a lady like

a lady like a lady like.

I've had a love.

This is unladie like. I'm Kristen. Take a deep breath. Unhook that bra, if applicable.

Loosen any waistline. We're in for a good time. We are in for a perfectly timed conversation with two podcast luminaries, Amy Choi and Rebecca Lair of mash-up Americans, who have done something

that feels almost inconceivable in this moment of podcasting. I don't know if y'all have heard, but it's

been a rough year for podcasts and the audio industry. it's pretty tough.

It fills my heart with so much joy.

Dare I say gratitude, since this episode will be coming out

the week of American Thanksgiving, that Amy and Rebecca,

their latest podcast season marks their 10-year anniversary.

And to celebrate, they have compiled sort of the mash-up American guide to life and really mining this overarching question of what does a good life mean and today's episode

y'all it really is this combination story of friendship and partnership and in the process

figuring out a life that does feel good to you, even when the rest of the world feels really bad.

So you know, like, right about now. I've had enough.

Do you want me to start Rebecca? Yeah. Okay. Do it. Hi my name is Amy Choi. I am the editorial director and the co-founder of the Mashba Americans and we are a creative studio and an independent media

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