Sometimes I feel like it's almost easier to fight with people that you agree on four out of five things because then you can like fight about this last little bit that like you guys don't agree on and it's almost like we're making enemies like out of our are like that what we call allies that are like the first and second steps

closest to us those are the people we fight with the most yeah and then the people

that are further away we we sort of just don't exist or something.

I don't know.

It gets better because it has to get better.

We're all made of human.

Hello, this is Sophie Hagen and you're listening to the made of human

podcast in short Mopard. It's a podcast in which I speak to nice people to try and

figure out how to do life, how to do being human and turns out no one knows no one has any idea and so basically it's just us having a chat trying to figure out why it's so difficult and just you know feel less alone together I think and this week I'm

speaking to Chris Grace and I have been trying literally to get Chris Grace on the podcast for four years maybe

maybe more than four years maybe five years he is an extraordinary person he He is extraordinary. He's an actor, an improv...

Improv... Improvizer, is that what's called? Singer, he's everything.

And I'll let you listen to our chat in just a bit he's also one of the most resilient people I know

Before I let you listen to my conversation with Chris I want to I love it when you're in my audience I love it when Mopat listeners are in my audience. You are a special kind of people. It's just it's just what it is. Like I'm doing gigs. I've just been doing gigs in Edinburgh and I mean you mean the world for me so I

would love for you to come and see me on Sur because I'm going on Sur of the UK with

my new show called Dead Baby Frog which is a comedy show about emotional abuse.

Well, hey, um,

Lzuh will start this autumn when I will be in

Peterborough, Winchester, Liverpool, Faram, Coventry, Swindon, Leeds, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Norwich, Kendall, Milton Keynes, Bath, Aldershire, Madenhead, Newcastle, Newcastle, Newcastle, Newcastle, £1st Grove, Stockton, Cambridge, Colchester, New Milton, Redding,

Whitehaven, Eberist with Northampton and Canterbury.

A few of them have already sold out.

I'm not going to say which ones because I don't really remember, but I think Leeds. Leeds is definitely sold out.

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