Acting Out

The Last Archive

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, History

4.6 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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In the 1930s, at a women's reformatory in upstate New York, an upstart social scientist made a study that launched the field of social network analysis. It was revolutionary, but missed something happening at the same time at the same school, something we know now in part from the story of the school's most famous inmate: Ella Fitzgerald.

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0:00.0	Hey last archive listeners, I wanted to let you know that you can hear the entire new
0:14.0	season of the last archive ad-free right now by becoming a Pushkin Plus subscriber.
0:20.6	Find Pushkin Plus on the last archive show page on Apple Podcasts or at pushkin.fm-slash-plus.
0:27.0	Otherwise we'll be releasing the episodes once a week, every Thursday, here on the ad-supported
0:31.8	feed.
0:32.8	Okay, thanks for listening.
0:42.2	The last archive, a history of truth.
0:50.0	Ella Fitzgerald never much liked doing interviews, which was too bad because she did them all
0:54.9	the time.
0:56.2	Here's when she did in Dallas in the 1980s.
0:59.2	Ella, welcome back to Dallas, how marvelous.
1:01.8	Oh, thank you and it's a pleasure to be back here again.
1:05.6	From the moment she'd become famous in the 1930s, everybody loved her.
1:09.8	And from then right on through to this interview in the 1980s, people wanted to tell her that
1:14.8	over and over and over again.
1:17.2	You know, Ella, you really are.
1:19.7	You're one of the national treasures.
1:21.5	Do you realize that?
1:23.8	I just realize that a lot of people love me and I think that's the most important thing.
1:30.2	One of the stories, the story really, that Fitzgerald always got asked to tell was the
1:34.8	story of how she got famous, the amateur hour at the Apollo Theatre in Harlem, when she
1:39.7	was supposed to dance, but got nervous, and started to sing instead.
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