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Yeah, get it on, everybody. Thanks for tuning in, as per usual. Kevin Neeland is with us today. Good to see you, Kevin.

Thank you. Thanks, Adam. Awesome. It's nice for you to invite me

into your little workplace here. Kevin, as I've always said, quietly, one of the funniest guys in this

He said that quietly? No, I mean, he is quietly, quietly. His comedy will sneak up on you.

I've seen him.

One of the fastest, smartest, funniest guys in this business.

All fear-based.

It doesn't matter. All comes from fear.

Look, maybe Tyson was scared.

Yeah, I'm sure he was.

Either way, he went 30 and 0 with 31 knockouts.

You know what I'm saying?

I like this atmosphere, the setting much better than the radio station because this is more like a therapist office.

I think you get a better interview here from your patients.

People do loosen up.

And yeah, I like it's got the leather back chairs.

We're sitting around.

We're sort of in that position you do at your therapist's office, which is you're not exactly facing each other, but your backs aren't to each other either. Yeah, yeah. Do you see a therapist, by the way? I don't. I did. You did? I did, but I don't. See, my impression of a therapist was someone that come in and help you

with your problem in your life. And then you move on and you're done with them. Right. But I've

learned in Hollywood therapists are kind of like a lifelong, you know, help line for some people.

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