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Yeah, get it on, everybody. Get it on. No choice but to get it on mandate.

Get it on. Jeff Ross is in our humble studio. If you hear some clicking in the background,

that's just a reporter from an AP wanting to know what all the success is about. So he's taking

pictures of us while we're doing our filthy interview. Good to see you, Jeff.

This is so cool, Adam. Thanks for coming by.

It's like you've really figured it out, by friend.

Well, we'll see. The point is you have really figured it out, my friend. Well, we'll see.

The point is you have to figure out how to get paid.

You need to sit in your own house?

Yeah, well, okay.

But right now, this is essentially you doing open mic 15 years ago and people going,

you really got it made.

And you were going, nope, because I don't get paid.

I don't know, man. When I did open mic, I had to sit out in the street and hand out flyers to people to try to get them in. Oh, really? Oh, so you had to bring your own audience? Of course. Just like when you're a headliner, you have to draw, when you're an open mic, or I used to sit at, on Wall Street.

I had a room called Jokers and Brokers. It was like a happy hour comedy show. Uh-huh. And then kids I went to high school and college would just see me on the street handing out flyers in the afternoon and they were just, hey, Ross, what happened, man? It's like one day, dude, one day. And they're all working Wall Street. They they're all making money and I'm like a homeless it it does suck especially when you get into this business where a lot of the guys you want to high school with or maybe went to college with are making money right out of high school right out of college and you don't make a penny for at least eight years in this business, at least eight years.

So when these guys are in their mid-20s, later 20s, they're pulling up in corvettes.

They got cash.

They're wearing nice suits.

They've been at the same law firm for four years now.

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