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🗓️ 15 August 2020
⏱️ 91 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Queer's Fiction where we discuss queer historical media. |
0:03.7 | My name is Eli. |
0:04.7 | I'm Alice. |
0:05.5 | I'm Jason. |
0:06.3 | And today we're talking about modern depictions of Achilles and Patrickless. |
0:18.5 | We have some content warnings before we start this episode. |
0:21.4 | We'll be discussing war and war-related death, grief, violence and PTSD, as depicted in the media |
0:26.9 | that we're discussing. |
0:27.8 | We're also going to be discussing sexual slavery, both in a war context and not, and the way |
0:32.8 | that those relationships are romanticised in media. |
0:35.6 | Somewhat on that note, we will also be discussing modern homophobia and misogyny. |
0:39.3 | If any of that sounds like something that you don't want to listen to, please for free to skip this one and listen to any of our other episodes. |
0:45.3 | A couple of episodes ago, we discussed the mythological figures Achilles and Patriclus and their depiction in ancient texts, |
0:52.3 | most notably in Homer's Iliad. I don't want to recap that |
0:55.1 | episode too thoroughly, so if that sounds interesting to you, I suggest you just go and listen to that |
0:59.5 | episode. But I will say a few things as necessary background. Achilles and Patroclus are heroes of |
1:05.3 | the Trojan War, a brief episode of which is depicted in the Iliad. Although there is genuinely some |
1:10.4 | ambiguity as to the exact nature of their relationship in the Iliad. Although there is genuinely some ambiguity as to the |
1:11.5 | exact nature of their relationship in the Iliad, their relationship is very intense and very |
1:16.6 | important to the plot, character arcs and emotional heart of that poem. What is not ambiguous is how |
1:21.8 | their relationship is understood in the later Greek text we discussed. So we discussed Eastgloss's |
1:26.8 | play the Mermedoms, which survives only in fragments, |
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