Welcome to ACFM, the home of the weird left. I'm Nadia Idol and as usual I'm joined

by Jeremy Gilbert. Hello. And before we get on to the show we just want to extend a massive

thank you to all of our fans, new and old who came down to see us at the world transformed

and participated in our workshop on the Ecologies of Solidarity. It was lovely to spend an evening

with you so thanks so much to everyone who came down. So everyone today's episode is on Revolution.

So guys why are we talking about Revolution today? There's lots of reasons why we would want to talk

about it but one key reason is that we all feel that we're in a situation now as a sort of historic

situation where the scale of the climate crisis in particular means that you know just to sort of

preserve human life and civilization then we need systemic change of a type and on a scale that

we would historically we would have described as revolutionary historically you need a revolution

or something that would have been described as a revolution to make that happen but it's also

pretty obvious at least in a place like Britain that we don't seem to be in a historic situation

which you know you would describe as pre-revolutionary say the political and cultural conditions

are not anywhere near to those you would expect to see in the inner society on the brink of

revolution. So that leaves a whole set of questions as to well what do we what do we do about it?

I mean the way the way you put it now dear about why are we talking about revolution and is it

even possible I think you might have meant that as is revolution possible today but it might also

be interpreted as is it even possible to talk about revolution doesn't even make sense to talk

about it and I think that gets us into this this idea that you know the way people have talked about

revolution and what they've had in their minds has changed a lot our idea of revolution is like

rupture or change is some sort of rupture where everything starts and a new or you have a new start

a new beginning you know that's not that old it's on you you know kept two or three hundred years old

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