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The Dropout

Accusations and Evasions

The Dropout

ABC News

True Crime

4.625.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2021

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

This week, the most jaw-dropping testimony in this trial yet. Elizabeth Holmes fights back tears telling the court she was raped when she was at Stanford and claims she was in an emotional and physically abusive relationship with her former boyfriend and Theranos COO Sunny Balwani, who firmly denies all allegations. Plus, the government begins its cross-examination, and while Elizabeth Holmes seemed to be able to recall her life in vivid detail throughout the defense’s questioning, her memories suddenly got more hazy, even non-existent, at times. Will the jury be thrown by the sudden evasiveness? And ultimately, will charges of abuse negate the allegations of fraud? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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Slack.com slash DHQ. This episode contains allegations about sexual

0:34.9

and dating violence and includes references to disordered eating that may be triggering

0:39.7

for some listeners. Previously on The Dropout, Elizabeth Holmes returned to the stand, presenting

0:48.7

herself as a true believer in her company. Her whole presentation is a study in contrast

0:55.5

and contradictions, because on the one hand, they're showing her to be naive and trusting.

1:01.7

And yet when you have her testify, she is clearly in control of the technology and she understands

1:09.3

it in great depth. She admitted to altering documents and reframe the narrative, repeatedly

1:16.3

blaming others, and citing trade secrets as an excuse for alleged deceptions.

1:21.8

Sure, the ingredients in Coke are a trade secret. What Coke does not do is go by a whole

1:31.1

trailer full of Pepsi and put it in Coke cans.

1:35.2

This week, the most jaw-dropping testimony in this trial yet. Elizabeth fighting back

1:40.8

tears, telling the court she was raped when she was at Stanford, and claiming she was

1:45.8

in an emotional and physically abusive relationship with her former boyfriend and

1:50.2

Theranos co. Sonny Bellwani, allegations he's firmly denied.

1:55.5

I personally was surprised at how far her testimony went in terms of bolstering the defense

2:03.9

case. Sure, they lost a few battles, but maybe they're going to win the war.

2:12.4

Plus the government begins its cross-examination. Do these charges of abuse negate the allegations

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