This is Ovious and Jillio.

Let's podcast alongside Joe Jillio. I'm Joe Ovius. are inside of Eifford Studios in downtown Raleigh.

Thanks to Empire Properties. And thanks to Copiers Plus. Check them out online at Copiers.

Dashplus.com, print management, document management. It's just a good, wholesome company that invites us to their Christmas party, Joe.

We'll be there on Thursday. They've got good food. There's no generational trauma based on their holiday meal.

That's copiers plus.

Homegrown, local, corporate champion.

Tell me the difference between being of Italian descent and Cuban descent, right?

When somebody feeds you a bad meal, that's disrespectful. I'm not really sure why you, why you struggle with this. I'm not struggling with it. Personal affront. No, it's more so that personal affront. It's more so that I'm surprised that that affected you that badly. That's all. But we'll be treated. We'll be treated like family on Thursday when we go visit Copiers Plus out in Fairville. Very much looking

forward to that. It is a Monday. Anybody can podcast on a Monday. And folks, wait for it. We have a lot to

get into today, including some Thanksgiving leftovers with ACC Hoops with NC State, North Carolina, and Duke.

There's a lot to catch up with the Carolina hurricanes as well while we were gone.

Some things that we didn't really discuss like the apparent Andre Svetnikov drama or the Keynes fans civil war over goaltending that's unfolded in the last two weeks.

It's just I have, I have wait for when we get into the Thanksgiving leftovers portion of today's podcast, I have like a word of advice for some Keynes fans, but we'll get to that a little bit later on, maybe even a little high school football mixed into our Thanksgiving leftovers.

Of course, Carolina Panthers continue to not make a lot of sense, but hey, here we are with seven and 6, we'll get to that. But we do have some college football things that we most addressed. You missed it. Right out of the gate. It's a Monday. You drank a little bit too much on Saturday. I did, actually. Speaking of things that don't make sense. Oh, well. Yeah, I'm off my game. Let me tell you. The ACC championship game, we've got Duke against Virginia, just on the surface.

That doesn't really make a whole lot of sense, time traveler from the beginning of the 2025 season, let alone.

I'm sorry, the tie break gave us what now?

Yeah.

It spit out what?

Even though as I tried to explain it to you?

Joe, love you.

In real time.

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