Hey acquired asked things like how did we start the show how do we make the show and you know what's

sort of the structure of the show and what's it all about and after we finished

recording it we realized this would probably be useful number one to reference

for for new listeners coming in

and wondering what the show is all about but we figured long-time listeners might be

interested in in hearing how we really got started because I don't think we've

talked a lot about it on the show.

So if that's something you're interested in then keep listening and we hope you enjoy this sort of

special episode.

So if you guys just want to introduce yourself and kind of tell me a little bit about each of you.

Sure. I am Ben Gilbert. I am the co-founder of Pioneer Square Labs here in Seattle.

We are a startup studio that starts companies and computer science background worked at Microsoft a little bit got to ship office for iPad v1 and

It started getting interested in the venture side of things after that.

So then I got the chance to work with David at Madrona.

And we have been podcasting ever since.

Indeed, indeed.

And I'm David Rosenthal. I am a venture capitalist at Madrona Venture Group in

Seattle and yeah Ben and I met when he joined Madrona in the first iteration of Madrona Labs before Pioneer Square

Labs and became great friends and one day Ben said hey I've been thinking about starting a

podcast and what do you think about doing it together and one thing led to another

and many many thousands of listeners later here we are.

Well that's awesome so have you guys always been big fans of

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