Abortion and the Supreme Court: Politics Over Law? Or Law Over Politics?

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🗓️ 28 October 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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CPF Director Bob Shrum joins an all-star panel discussion on the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade and the politics of Supreme Court decisions. They discuss the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization decision, the impact of Roe v. Wade on voters and the midterm election, the upcoming Supreme Court cases, and if Roe can be restored.

Featuring:

Lee Epstein: Hilliard Distinguished Professor of Law, USC Gould School of Law
Jessica Lall: President and CEO, Central City Association of Los Angeles; Fall 2022 Barbara Boxer Fellow, USC Center for the Political Future
Mark Schoofs: Pulitzer prize-winning Professor of Journalism, USC Annenberg School for Communication and Journalism
Bob Shrum: Director, Center for the Political Future; Warschaw Chair in Practical Politics, USC Dornsife

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0:00.0	Welcome to the bully pulpit from the University of Southern California Center for the Political Future.
0:11.8	Our podcast brings together America's top politicians, journalists, academics, and strategists from across the political spectrum for discussions on hot button issues where we respect
0:22.0	each other and respect the truth. We hope you enjoy these conversations.
0:29.2	Good afternoon. So those of you who don't know, I'm Bob Shrum, the Warsaw professor and director
0:35.0	of the Center for the Political Future here at USC Dornside.
0:39.0	Today we're going to focus on the Supreme Court's Dobbs decision overturning Roe v. Wade.
0:44.7	Our panelists are Lee Epstein, the Hilliard Distinguished Professor of Law at USC Gould,
0:50.0	who was co-authored 18 books and nearly countless articles,
0:53.9	and whose research centered on
0:56.4	judicial institutions, especially the behavior of judges. Jessica Law, the president and CEO of the
1:02.6	Central City Association of Los Angeles, and we're proud to say a 22 fellow here at the Center
1:08.4	for the Political Future. Mark Schoves is a Pulitzer Prize-winning
1:12.1	professor of journalism at USC Annenberg, who's led investigative journalism, the ProPublica,
1:18.2	BuzzFeed, and the Wall Street Journal. So I'm going to begin with a question, and I'll send it to
1:23.5	you firstly, that's the subtitle of this event. Did Dobbs represent politics over law or law over politics?
1:32.9	So there's a lot ways to answer that question, but let me give you a very simple answer.
1:39.1	Two years ago, the Supreme Court invalidated restrictions on abortion, thereby implicitly, right, reaffirming Roe v. Wade, Planned Parenthood versus Casey, the right to abortion.
1:54.6	The vote was five to four. Two years later, in Dobbs, the decision we're talking about today, the Supreme Court not only
2:02.8	upheld restrictions on abortion, but overturned Roe versus Waves. So what happened in two years?
2:11.3	One thing. Liberal Democrat Ruth Bader Ginsburg left. Conservative Republican, Amy Coney Barrett, arrived,
2:20.6	who, by the way, was put on the court to overturn Roe versus Wade.
2:25.1	So that's not really a definitive answer.
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