This is above average Intelligence, a production of the DSR network.

Each week hosts Mark Polymeropolis and David Rothkoff are joined by leading experts from the

Intelligence Community for expert

analysis on the biggest security challenges around the world.

Welcome to the podcast. I'm Mark Pomeroplus and this is

DSR's Above Average Intelligence Show. Today I'm very happy to welcome as my

guest, Eliza Mundi, an award-winning journalist and the New York Times best-selling author of five books, including her

latest work, The Sisterhood, The Secret History of Women at the CIA, published in 2003,

2023, and suddenly a book that I love and we'll talk about it quite a bit today.

It was like a path down memory lane.

Liza is a former staff writer for the Washington Post, also the New York Times, best-selling

author of Michelle, a biography of a 2008 biography of former First Lady Michelle Obama

and the richer sex, which explored the forces behind women's rising economic power.

She's appeared on TV and radio shows.

Everywhere, the Colbert report that today's show, Good Morning America,

CBS This Morning, MS NBC, etc., etc.

A former staff writer for the post, she also wrote for the Atlantic,

Politico, the Smithsonian, she lives in Washington, D.C.

and in Los Angeles, California, which I think where you are joining us today from.

So welcome from across you know several time zones but

Liza it's an honor to have you on here. Thank you so much for having me

it's a pleasure and a privilege. You know I I think what will, you know, I certainly want to talk about the book, and this will be kind of a unique conversation because, as we just talked about, it's a moment ago as we were coming online, you know, I know so many of the people involved in this.

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