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THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

A Wounded Trump is a Dangerous Trump + A Conversation with David Plouffe

THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

Audio Up Media

Politics, News

4.88.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

The criminal indictment of the Trump Organization puts Donald Trump squarely in the crosshairs of legal jeopardy. But a wounded Trump is still a dangerous Trump; creating a new urgency to jumpstart his political life and remain viable as a candidate. He won’t run because he’s afraid to lose. But as long as his MAGA base thinks he’ll run, the more money he can raise. In addition, he can claim that the DA is only coming after him as a political vendetta. But to remain viable, Trump must appeal to an extremist base that is more prone to conspiracy thinking, violence, racism and hatred. All of this was on display last weekend at his first public rally and will only intensify as his legal troubles mount.


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0:00.0

I have done my

0:02.1

audio

0:05.3

up

0:05.9

This is my

0:08.3

Mayor Coke

0:09.6

Oh, baby don't lie for me

0:12.3

If I tell you my story, don't cry for me

0:15.1

I did my time that's fine by me

0:18.0

This is my

0:19.4

That's fair to me

0:20.8

I'm going to go I have thrown by me. This is my trade a cold.

0:23.8

Hey, I've thrown the kitchen sink at the Trump Organization and Alan Weisselberg.

0:27.3

This is very bad news for the Trump organization because the DA has taken an aggressive tack

0:31.6

indicting the entire Trump organization and references to the payroll company and others.

0:36.2

So if you were the company hoping to pin this on the employer, get out of it as far as the payroll company and others. So if you were the company

0:37.5

hoping to pin this on the employer, get out of it as far as the DA concerned, game over there.

0:42.4

They're going after the whole company. That ensures Donald Trump and others will be drawn out

0:45.4

to fight this. Highlight number two, there are 15 counts here. This is not one or two counts.

0:50.9

We were covering initially the verbal oral testimony and statements coming

0:56.7

out of the lawyers in court today. That gave us previews where we had the reference to grand

1:01.1

larceny. Now we have 15 counts, including larceny, tax fraud, false statements, filing

1:06.6

false instruments, falsifying business records. They are taking what the DA argues was a conspiracy

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