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A Witch Expert on Salem

Women Who Travel | Condé Nast Traveler

Condé Nast Traveler

Society & Culture, Places & Travel

4.4636 Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Salem, Massachusetts has long lived in our public consciousness as both the site of the infamous witch trials of 1692 and 1693 and as a Halloween tourist destination depicted in myriad pieces of literature, pop culture, and art. But what is it actually like to spend time there? Lale chats with Dr. Helen Berger from the Women’s Studies Center at Brandeis University, whose written multiple books about witch communities in Salem and elsewhere to find out. Plus, we dive into WitchTok content from around the world.

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Lale Arakoglu, and this is Women Who Travel, with an end of October deep dive into pagan Halloween that has both ancient and contemporary significance.

0:26.0

Last year, we celebrated Witches in Mexico and in Denmark.

0:28.0

As a result, we have one golden left.

0:32.3

John has to call on nowadays.

0:34.9

The witch has, he must be thrilled.

0:36.7

By the way, the museum, they're so quick by now.

0:43.4

Today, we're going to visit Salem, Massachusetts, and take a look at the rise of witch-tot communities online.

0:46.4

So, Sowan is coming up.

0:49.0

Sowing is also known as Halloween.

0:50.9

It's one of the Sabbaths.

0:53.0

It's when the veil is the most thinnest. So we do a lot of spirit work,

0:55.5

ancestral work on the night of the 31st. So I will probably be doing a lot around that because

1:01.3

it is obviously the Witch's New Year too. So yes, a big month for us. More from Witch in the

1:08.0

Wilderness later. First, Dr. Helen Berger from from the Women's Studies Center at Brandeis University, takes us to some in-person gatherings.

1:18.5

It's a Druid holiday. It's a Celtic holiday.

1:21.7

And it is a celebration of fall.

1:25.3

And in fall, there's death.

1:32.3

It always involves some form of meditation, focusing on the turning of the year,

1:36.3

and the Pesephani myth, of dying, of nature, withdrawing into itself, And it always focuses on the self, on what in you is dying.

1:54.3

You know, kind of that morning period and that celebration, what does that look like? Because I

1:59.5

imagine to most people listening, they

2:01.1

probably have it all wrong how they're picturing it. Well, it depends if people meet in groups

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