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Hey, good morning. I'm Patricia Murphy. It's Christmas. I hope you have fun plans.

The Seattle Now team is off today, but we wanted to leave you a little Christmas present in the feed.

It's a bonus episode of another great KUOW podcast. Meet Me Here.

Each year, Christmas floods the culture as soon as Thanksgiving Turkey is out of the way. There's

music, lights, shows, traditions, all of it ranging from super religious to fully secular.

One tradition, Die Hard the movie, is the subject of an ongoing debate about its place in the Christmas movie canon.

Meet Me Here host Dyer Oxley and Weekend Review host Bill Radkew argue over it every year.

And this year, they're bringing the conflict to the mic in a... A very special die-hard holiday rumble.

In this corner, the die-hard denier, the merry man of movie virtue, K-U-O-W's Bill Radkey.

And in this corner, the Holiday Heretic, the festive film fanatic, Dyer, Oxley.

Head to head for a holly jolly joust of cinematic purity.

Let's get ready to respectfully disagree. Bill, you're here because I like disagreeing with you.

I like disagreeing with you.

I did, let's, uh, we, we disagree on sparkling water, I believe.

Yes, we do.

Uh, I think what was the other, there was a

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