All right, we said cue the band, but they were backstage talking to the opening act,

and so there was, you know, another few seconds of dead air there.

Anyway, Brian Lairer on WNYC, and it's well reported and almost broadly accepted

that President Donald Trump and his family have been profiting off his presidency, right?

But the amount that Trumps have gained these past nine months of his second term has snowballed in a way not seen in his first term and maybe ever for a

sitting president. On Monday, the entire Trump family hit a big payday. It's reported with the venture

into cryptocurrency. The digital assets firm World Liberty Financial, co-founded by Trump's sons

last year, launched a public sale of its flagship tokens,

or called tokens, for those of you don't know that world, that resulted in a billion dollars

worth of trades on popular crypto exchanges. Several founders of those crypto exchanges, ones like

Binance, Coinbase, Cracken, have close ties with the administration.

But crypto isn't the only revenue stream for the family. The New Yorkers, David Kirkpatrick,

recently set out to answer the question, how much money is Donald Trump making off the presidency?

And he joins us now. Hi, David. Welcome back to WNYC. It's great to be here. And your reporting came out

before the news of this week, where the Trump's made an additional billion dollars plus on

crypto, it's reported. So let's not bury the lead. How much do you estimate Trump is made from

his presidency since January 20th? So when I did my article for The New Yorker, the total I came up with was $3.4 billion.

Now, some of that is going to be money that the family made in the run-up to his

regaining the White House, but it's all presidency-related.

And in light of this new deal, a cursory look at the numbers suggest that

that's probably risen by $1.1 billion. So I would, if I were doing it now to update the story,

I would come up with something like $4.5 billion.

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