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So you know, this episode has language that's PG-13.

So if you're playing this on your speakers in the office

maybe save it for later. This is code switch I'm Lori Lissaraga. This week we're sharing an episode from our friends at NPR's Throughline

podcast featuring a familiar voice to Coateswich listeners Sequoia Carillo.

The episode is called A Tale of Two Tribal Nations, and it's a story of the choices that led each nation down a very different path.

Here's co-host Ram Tin Arablui.

Roger Jordan wasn't someone who shied away from a fight,

especially when that fight involved his home.

Home was a reservation called Red Lake, located in a remote part of Northern Minnesota

that carves out an area about the size of Rhode Island.

And from the time he was a kid growing up in the 1920s, Roger had a sense it was a special place.

Not just because it was the same place his father, his father's father,

and generations of Ojibwe before them had lived,

but also because his tribe, the Red Lake Band of Ojibwe, own the land, all of it.

They had a level of independence that was almost unparalleled, a fact he would make sure to share

every chance he got once he became the first elected

tribal chairman of Red Lake.

He held that post for three decades.

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