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uncertainties. I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. The government reported today that

147,000 more people were on payrolls in June compared to May. That is a stronger outcome than forecast. Lauren Seidel Baker has just gone through the data. She's with the consultancy ITR economics in New Hampshire. Good morning. Hi. Great to be here. Nice way to launch ourselves into the holiday weekend, right? That looks stronger than expected. Very much stronger than expected. We saw the unemployment rate tick down unexpectedly. So after some more pessimistic numbers, estimates of the labor market earlier this week, this is a pretty big beat. What explains this? I mean, when I talk to CEOs,

they're all talking about uncertainty. We don't know which way tariffs are going. We're going to

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